Semi-Great Vintage Port Tasting
Vintage 1984
One member of our Society wanted in 2014 to celebrate the vintage of 1984 but unfortunately we had no opportunity during this last year why the celebration was instead in February 2015.
This Vintage was an off vintage, and was judged by us as Good (see our Vintage Rating). Only 15 houses declared this vintage according to our knowledge. Michael Broadbent gave this vintage 2* out of 5*, and Suckling gave it 81 points out of 100 points. See more about the 1984 Vintage here.
The Wine Society 18% had a Semi-Great Tasting 19 February 2015 of the Vintage 1984. We call it Semi-Great because we had only 16 Vintages and not 20 Vintages which is our limit for calling it a Great Tasting.
We were 16 participants in the tasting. The tasting was totally blind i.e. just SAI knew what was in the glasses. See Our Points to translate it to 100 points scale. The vintage made some very attractive wines, but it is not surprising none of the major houses declared 1984. We think the wines are rather lean and one-dimensional, but some are very attractive and worth hunting and some will even develop a little more which surprise us.
The tasting was conducted over two flights.
First flight:
Second flight:
Tasting notes. Note that the points are for the actual bottle tasted. Read about how we set point on the page "How to understand our points valuations"
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House | Burmester | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still quite dark but mature yellow in colour. |
Bouquet | Toffee, fudge, crème caramel, toffee, liquorice and candy in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature and very tasty with still some very soft tannins left. Cinnamon and liquorice in taste. Balanced and very elegant with a long and very attractive finish. |
SAI point | 16.50 | JB point | 15.75 | SS point | 16.50 | Group point | 15.53 |
SAI rank | 3 | JB rank | 10 | SS rank | 4 | Group rank | 9 |
Comment | SS had a split ranking |
House | Burton Messias | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still rather dark but yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Quite shy in bouquet. Pharmacy, orange zest, raisin, and quite ethereal in the nose. |
Taste | Hardly medium body. Mature and peaking. Easy to drink and like. Pharmacy in taste. Nice finish but quite short. No long-runner so drink up. |
SAI point | 14.90 | JB point | 15.50 | SS point | 15.90 | Group point | 15.23 |
SAI rank | 14 | JB rank | 11 | SS rank | 8 | Group rank | 12 |
Comment | SAI and JB had a split ranking |
House | Guimaraens Fonseca | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Very dark but yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Liquorice, crème caramel, toffee and cinnamon in the nose. Very generous indeed! |
Taste | Full-bodied. Mature and peaking. Elegant and tasty. Pepper, fudge, mint, liquorice, dark cherry and much more in taste. Balanced an complex port with a long, lovely and attractive finish. Wonderful port which shall be consumed now! |
SAI point | 17.00 | JB point | 16.00 | SS point | 17.00 | Group point | 15.77 |
SAI rank | 1 | JB rank | 5 | SS rank | 1 | Group rank | 5 |
Comment | JB had a split ranking |
House | Hooper | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Mature yellow colour. |
Bouquet | Ethereal, clove, spicy, cacao and dried fruits and zest of oranges in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature and maybe even a little old. Will not improve but still balanced with a nice finish. |
SAI point | 14.90 | JB point | 15.50 | SS point | 14.50 | Group point | 14.80 |
SAI rank | 14 | JB rank | 11 | SS rank | 16 | Group rank | 15 |
Comment | SAI and JB had a split ranking |
House | Prime Messias | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Pale yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Generous bouquet of fudge, some spiciness, cinnamon, dark chocolate, coffee and toffee in the nose. |
Taste | Hardly medium body. Mature and peaking and even a bit alcoholic in taste. Balanced and elegant. Easy to drink and like. Cinnamon and spiciness in taste. Not so long but quite nice and attractive finish. |
SAI point | 14.90 | JB point | 15.25 | SS point | 15.00 | Group point | 15.13 |
SAI rank | 14 | JB rank | 16 | SS rank | 15 | Group rank | 13 |
Comment | SAI had a split ranking |
House | Quinta do Bomfim Dow | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still dark but quite yellow in colour. |
Bouquet | Dark cherry, herbs. Liquorice, cream candy and dried fruit in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature but still with some tannin. Probably near its peak. Liquorice, dark berry and herbs in taste. Elegant with a balanced and long, attractive and enjoyable finish. |
SAI point | 16.25 | JB point | 16.25 | SS point | 16.50 | Group point | 15.63 |
SAI rank | 4 | JB rank | 3 | SS rank | 4 | Group rank | 7 |
Comment | JB and SS had a split ranking |
House | Quinta do Cachão Messias | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Pale but yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Liquorice, cream candy, zest of oranges and cinnamon in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature and on top. Taste of cream candy and liquorice. Lovely and easy to drink with a nice finish. Quite attractive port. |
SAI point | 15.40 | JB point | 15.50 | SS point | 15.50 | Group point | 15.27 |
SAI rank | 11 | JB rank | 11 | SS rank | 9 | Group rank | 11 |
Comment | JB and SS had a split ranking |
House | Quinta de Cavadinha Warre | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still quite dark blue in colour but with a yellow rim. |
Bouquet | Complex old grocery shop with coffee and cacao, fruit, dark berry, cinnamon, toffee and spiciness in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Sweet. Quite mature but still with some soft and delicate tannins. Elegant and balanced with herbs and fruit in taste. Excellent, long and very attractive finish. |
SAI point | 15.90 | JB point | 16.90 | SS point | 16.75 | Group point | 15.60 |
SAI rank | 7 | JB rank | 2 | SS rank | 3 | Group rank | 8 |
Comment | |
House | Quinta da Foz Calem | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still rather dark blue in colour with a yellow rim. |
Bouquet | Violet, dark berry, black cherry, cacao, roasted coffee and dark chocolate in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature and peaking but maybe still some very soft tannins. Delicate flavour with cacao, violet and much more. Balanced and complex port with a very long, attractive and delicious finish. |
SAI point | 16.90 | JB point | 16.50 | SS point | 16.90 | Group point | 16.17 |
SAI rank | 2 | JB rank | 5 | SS rank | 2 | Group rank | 1 |
Comment | JB had a split ranking |
House | Quinta do Noval Nacional | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still quite dark but mature yellow colour. |
Bouquet | Toffee, fudge, some oak, dark berry, black cherry, cream candy and some coffee and tea in the nose. |
Taste | Quite full- bodied. Mature and probably peaking even if some soft tannin can be revealed. Elegant and balanced with a nice, long, attractive finish but not up to Nacional normal standard. |
SAI point | 16.00 | JB point | 17.00 | SS point | 15.50 | Group point | 16.03 |
SAI rank | 5 | JB rank | 1 | SS rank | 9 | Group rank | 2 |
Comment | SAI and SS had a split ranking |
House | Quinta do Panascal Fonseca Guimaraens | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Ethereal bouquet with pharmacy, hospital, candy, toffee and fudge in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Sweet, mature and peaking. Easy to drink and like. An enjoyable port with a quite complex finish. |
SAI point | 15.25 | JB point | 16.00 | SS point | 15.25 | Group point | 15.97 |
SAI rank | 12 | JB rank | 5 | SS rank | 13 | Group rank | 4 |
Comment | SAI, JB and SS had a split ranking |
House | Quinta da Romaneira | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still rather dark but mature yellow in colour. |
Bouquet | Complex and ethereal nose of dried fruit, ginger, pharmacy, hospital, sweet liquorice, candy, herbals and much more in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature, sweet and peaking. Elegant with dried fruit, sweet liquorice, herbals and much more in taste. Easy to drink and like with a quite long and attractive finish. |
SAI point | 15.75 | JB point | 16.00 | SS point | 16.50 | Group point | 16.00 |
SAI rank | 8 | JB rank | 5 | SS rank | 4 | Group rank | 3 |
Comment | SAI and SS had a split ranking |
House | Quinta de Vargellas Taylor | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Complex crème caramel, some violet, blackberry, fruit, ginger and herbs in the nose. |
Taste | Almost full-bodied. Mature and almost peaking but with some soft tannin left. Violet and herbs in flavour. Sweet. Balanced and complex. Attractive and quite long finish. |
SAI point | 16.00 | JB point | 16.00 | SS point | 16.00 | Group point | 15.50 |
SAI rank | 5 | JB rank | 5 | SS rank | 7 | Group rank | 10 |
Comment | SAI and JB had a split ranking |
House | Real Vinicola Real Velha | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still rather dark but mature yellow in colour. |
Bouquet | Dates, prunes, figs, leather and cream candy in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature but with some unbalanced acidity – tannins? Rather tasty and elegant. Toffee in taste. Easy to drink and quite enjoyable with a nice and quiet long finish. |
SAI point | 15.50 | JB point | 15.40 | SS point | 15.40 | Group point | 14.80 |
SAI rank | 10 | JB rank | 14 | SS rank | 12 | Group rank | 15 |
Comment | JB had a split ranking |
House | Royal Oporto Real Velha | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Still rather dark but yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Wet wood, leather, cinnamon and dried dark berry in the nose. |
Taste | Medium nose. Mature with still some very soft tannin. Fudge in taste. Quite complex and balanced with a nice and rather long finish. |
SAI point | 15.75 | JB point | 16.25 | SS point | 15.25 | Group point | 15.77 |
SAI rank | 8 | JB rank | 3 | SS rank | 13 | Group rank | 5 |
Comment | SAI, JB and SS had a split ranking |
House | Quinta do Silval Quinta do Noval | Vintage | 1984 |
Colour | Yellow mature in colour. |
Bouquet | Herbs, savory, cacao, coffee, zest of oranges and cream candy in the nose. |
Taste | Medium body. Mature and peaking. Will not be better but easy to drink and like. Herbs in taste. Elegant and quite tasty with a nice and rather attractive finish. |
SAI point | 15.25 | JB point | 15.40 | SS point | 15.50 | Group point | 15.00 |
SAI rank | 12 | JB rank | 14 | SS rank | 9 | Group rank | 14 |
Comment | SAI, JB and SS had a split ranking |